<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">At SWARC, we have had competitions at local malls before. We arranged it through mall management and the mall we went through was very open to our being there. We did not have many competitions at malls because it was more expensive for us. We had to pay for liability insurance for each event which was around $100. Our 'bots' were more dangerous but were in a controlled space - a 4x4' lexan box. Our 'pit' area where the 'bots' were repaired and recharged was on a group of tables provided by the mall in a roped off area that only competitors were allowed in.<br><br>I would not rule out mall contests, but be advised of the costs.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Glenn<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;
font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Randy M. Dumse <rmd@newmicros.com><br>To: John Swindle <swindle@compuserve.com>; dprglist@dprg.org<br>Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 2:22:53 PM<br>Subject: RE: [DPRG] Re: Games<br><br><div>John Swindle asked: Sunday, June 17, 2007 3:04 PM<br><br>> Have these discussions already been had in the past?<br><br>As often as the contests get hashed on this list, yes, I'm<br>certain every possible issue has been discussed in some phase,<br>angle or attitude. Ever read Eclesiasties, "there is nothing new<br>under the sun".<br><br>But I think the point is to say them over and over isn't it?<br>Every year, more or less, same hash?<br><br>I really did try to make some new points. But who knows? There's<br>such a backlog of previous material and thought. Who can keep up<br>with it all?<br><br>> I think Dave will have something to say about running the <br>> contest at a mall, something about the mall guard saying,
"We <br>> don't allow those kind here," or some such. Hah!<br><br>I think the point about crowd control very much applies. If you<br>ran a radio controlled car up and down the halls, where it could<br>trip someone, I'm sure you'd have security come pay you a visit.<br>I'm sure kids try this all the time. I would suspect that's what<br>the security guard was prepared for, and thought he saw, with<br>dpa. Not a well mannered robot, but an RC car with an crazed<br>driver about to kick it up to 30mph. I'm sure injury laywers<br>probably were already there, having monitored the security<br>guard's channel when they made the call, watching jBot with a<br>video recorder in one hand, and passing out cards with the<br>other.<br><br>On the other hand, if you carry robots in, and then set them<br>into a crowd control limited area...that's a whole different<br>thing. Perceived as attractive, interesting and safe. Something<br>they would encourage.<br><br>Randy<br><a target="_blank"
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