DPRG, While dreaming about robots this morning I drew up a 3D CAD model of the vaunted Pittman GM8712 Gearmotor. I realize that drawing it yourself can be most of the fun, but in case someone might find it useful I put JPEG, R14 DXF, and R14 DWG files online as: http://robostuff.com/dprg/eric_yundt/motors/GM87XX.jpg http://robostuff.com/dprg/eric_yundt/motors/GM87XX.dxf http://robostuff.com/dprg/eric_yundt/motors/GM87XX.dwg The 2.5" x 3" motor mounts for this are in the same directory: http://robostuff.com/dprg/eric_yundt/motors/GM87XXM.jpg http://robostuff.com/dprg/eric_yundt/motors/GM87XXM.dxf http://robostuff.com/dprg/eric_yundt/motors/GM87XXM.dwg Enjoy, -- Eric