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Subject: [DPRG] wiki
From: Glenn Pipe ggpipe at yahoo.com
Date: Mon Feb 4 12:40:20 CST 2008

My comments are below.

On 
Sat, 
2008-02-02 
at 
12:03 
-0600, 
Kipton 
Moravec 
wrote:
> 
The 
link 
is 
http://www.wikimatrix.org  
(NOT 
.com)

Thanks 
for 
the 
correction 
on 
the 
URL 
Kip.

> 
The 
one 
feature 
I 
am 
not 
sure 
of 
is 
WYSIWYG 
Editing. 
My 
initial
> 
impression 
is 
yes 
it 
would 
be 
helpful 
for 
anyone 
wanting 
to
> 
contribute 
(not 
just 
Wiki 
experts). 
What 
are 
other 
people's
> 
thoughts 
on 
this?

>I'm 
not 
sure 
if 
a 
WYSIWYG 
editor 
is 
really 
that 
helpful. 
Most 
wikis 
use
>very 
simple 
markup 
comparable 
to 
a 
typical 
web-based 
message 
forum. 
But
>I'm 
not 
opposed 
as 
long 
as 
I 
still 
have 
an 
optional 
small, 
fast
>interface.

I implemented a wiki at my workplace. I discovered that another department
was already using a wiki which was Media Wiki but the only content that was
added to it was done by the system administrator. The main reason: too difficult to
use.

That is why I decided on Deki Wiki, which by default is WYSIWYG, whereas MediaWiki
there is a add on to do that. Yes there are some people that are more comfortable with HTML
or vi or emacs than a WYSIWYG editor, but the vast majority of people prefer WYSIWYG.

BTW, under DekiWiki, you can still enter HTML if you want. 

> 
>From 
my 
looking 
at 
them, 
I 
would 
prefer 
one 
with 
a 
spell
> 
checker 
and 
one 
that 
allows 
mathematical 
formulas.

Don't 
all 
web 
browsers 
have 
built-in 
spell 
checkers 
these 
days? 
I'm 
not
sure 
it 
makes 
sense 
to 
duplicate 
web 
browser 
features 
in 
the 
Wiki.

A 
lot 
of 
wikis 
support 
math 
plug-ins. 
I'm 
sure 
DokuWiki 
and 
MediaWiki
would. 
I 
think 
the 
UTD 
guys 
set 
up 
a 
wiki 
that 
allowed 
math 
forumula
editing 
- 
anyone 
know 
what 
wiki/plugin 
they 
used?

On 
Sat, 
2008-02-02 
at 
14:02 
-0800, 
Sanjay 
Dastoor 
wrote:
> 
2.  
No 
login/password.  
There 
are 
good 
spam 
block-lists 
that 
are
> 
automatically 
updated, 
so 
keep 
the 
wiki 
open.  
People 
will 
edit 
more
> 
often.  
If 
spam 
or 
vandalism 
become 
an 
issue, 
then 
it 
can 
be 
changed
> 
later.  
Also, 
keep 
good 
backups 
of 
the 
wiki 
data.

>Unfortunately, 
spammers 
find 
wikis 
on 
high 
page 
rank 
sites 
pretty
>quickly. 
But 
I'd 
like 
to 
integrate 
it 
with 
the 
existing 
DPRG 
member
>system 
so 
we 
don't 
have 
to 
have 
two 
sets 
of 
logins. 

>Backup 
is 
no 
problem. 
Aside 
from 
the 
Wiki's 
internal 
history, 
daily
>backups 
are 
made 
of 
the 
entire 
DPRG 
site.

Yes spammers can ruin a wiki pretty fast. It wouldn't be difficult to add a login
for contributors. Most wikis support this. I wouldn't advise a public wiki
without a login for this reason.

Also DekiWiki does support templates, so its look it customizable.

Thanks,

Glenn



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