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[DPRG] Re: Allen Robots (Will's emotions)

Subject: [DPRG] Re: Allen Robots (Will's emotions)
From: David P. Anderson dpa at io.isem.smu.edu
Date: Mon Mar 5 19:13:15 CST 2007

Howdy

S.Rainwater writes:

> No, no code written here. Just thinking out loud about how it might
> work.
> 
> I think one of the key ideas is that emotion is an internal
> representation that drives behavior. By definition, subsumption is
> non-representational.
>  
> How about something like "systemic temporal state representation"? Or
> maybe you could even shorten it to "systemic temporal representation". I
> think that might work whether you're talking about emotion in meat-based
> machines or inorganic machines. 
> 
> Maybe it gets across the idea of a mechanism that compresses a lot of
> information about the environment and the [robot|organism], over time,
> into a single, representational value that can drive a behavior.
> 
> -Steve

"Systemic Temporal Representation?"   STRs?.  

I think "temporal" in there is a step in the right direction.  But I'm not
sure about "representation," which seems like a slippery slope.

Maybe the query is premature.  Anybody else on this list writing behavior-based
or subsumption code at all?  That's a good starting place.

I tried a similar thread over on comp.robotics.misc but to no avail.  Those folks
are all convinced that subsumption can't solve the problems they are interested
in solving, although they become quite defensive when asked, "Like what?"  Mostly
just theorists, I was unable to find anyone with actual experience writing
subsumption code.  

Is that the case here as well?    Perhaps before we venture into discussion of a
hypothetical code layer above the subsumption layers, that would be useful to
know.  Any behavior-based robot coders among us?  And if not, for those who are
robot builders, how do you organize your robot code?

best,
dpa

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