DPRG mailing list archives: [DPRG] Robotics Universities

Thu Dec 14 14:06:21 CST 2006

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From: Mohammad El-Abid [mailto:elabidster at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:06 PM
To: 'rmd at newmicros.com'
Subject: RE: [DPRG] Robotics Universities

No I’m going 3 ½ - 4 years early not 3 ½ - 4 years away. Either the nest
year or the second semester (if I can) next year.

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From: Randy M. Dumse [mailto:rmd at newmicros.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:50 PM
To: 'Mohammad El-Abid'; dprglist at dprg.org
Cc: Brian Huff
Subject: RE: [DPRG] Robotics Universities

Ah, so you're some years away from College.

Okay, you will probably not find a company that will hire you and put you
through an undergraduate degree. For a higher paid position which will have
actually have benefits, like educational support, rather than just an hourly
task, you'll have to already have a degree. If you start working right out
of highschool, the job you get will be menial and probably consume you. It
is really hard to get a 4 year degree in 8 years of working 40+ hours and
going to school. Frankly, the vast majority who try, don't make it.

So the highest probability of success is going to get a degree first. If you
can do that, then the company who hires you may help you get a Masters (~2
years in school, which will again take 2x or 3x times longer than if you
just stayed). Or even a PhD, (another ~2 years in school, which will again
take 3x or 4x times longer than if you just stayed). Again, many people may
start into that pipe. Very few people come out of it. Kids, Houses,
Mortgages, Cars, Hospital bills, even telephone bills, utilities and dogs
and cats, have a way of getting in the way. 

Now the reaon to stay in state is a financial one. Basically, it will cost
2x or more to go out of state. Or more. Even MUCH more. To go to the good
schools, you'll need good grades. You don't get to go to any school you
want. You only get to go to the schools that will take you. They look at how
good you did in High School, and make their predictions on how well you will
do at theirs. Your best schools, say like MIT or Stanford, etc., are going
to set you back about $40K a year. (Minimum wage works out to be around $12K
a year. Most high school grades who do really well can expect only about
$20K a year in a first job. So maybe you can see why the idea a company
would even consider paying 2x a guys salary in school benefits would seem
outrageous to them.)

HTH's

Randy

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From: dprglist-bounces at dprg.org [mailto:dprglist-bounces at dprg.org] On Behalf
Of Mohammad El-Abid
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:19 PM
To: rmd at newmicros.com; dprglist at dprg.org
Subject: RE: [DPRG] Robotics Universities

I don’t really care about location I’m going many years in advance so I
don’t think that will be a problem, especially if I find a good company that
has the program where they pay for collage if you come work for them, I’m
just not sure they let you chose, but then again if you got someone that is
going 3 ½ - 4 years yearly you might do a lot. 

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